Water Wetter

[speednovations]

Has Anybody used a Product called WATER WETTER? Apparently you just pour a bottle in your intercooler and it cuts down on heat soak alot. I heard you get it at any Auto parts store... Just curious

[360Rocket]

Good stuff, it works, but it works better with just water no coolant. I can get away with that in Florida as we have no freezing temps, so watch out with this up north.

I am using Purple Ice in my intercooler.

[Roushinator]

Originally Posted by 360Rocket

Good stuff, it works, but it works better with just water no coolant. I can get away with that in Florida as we have no freezing temps, so watch out with this up north.

Distilled water.....

[redfire427]

Originally Posted by 360Rocket

Good stuff, it works, but it works better with just water no coolant. I can get away with that in Florida as we have no freezing temps, so watch out with this up north.

I am using Purple Ice in my intercooler.

That seems a little odd running with just water. Anti-freeze is designed to lower the boiling point of the water. I would think in a high temperature environment that you live in, you would want all the protection you could get. Not only that, but I would be concerned about corrosion as well.

[EAGLE 5]

That's the magic of modern synthetic fluids really. Redline recommends using Water Wetter in addition to the coolant for street driven cars and distilled + WW for track use as it is known to lower the temperatures significantly this way. That's not really recommended for your daily driver as lower coolant and thus engine temperatures will cause the ECU to run more fuel to bring the car up to a preset operating temperature and thus kill your fuel economy.

[roushstage2]

I have been running RP Purple Ice for a few years now and it works!

[SteveL]

It's basically a form of soap, it reduces the surface tension of water so the water completely covers the surface of all the coolant passages. It can eliminate hot spots in the nooks and crannies where steam bubbles form leaving exposed metal.

[pikapp]

+1 on the Royal Purple. Ran the car hard at the Roush RoundUp-Waterford Race Track and the temp gauge never even made it to the mid point. Could have been just the coolant, but I'm thinking the RP helped as well.

[360Rocket]

Originally Posted by Roushinator

Distilled water.....

not with aluminum.

[Frank3]

Originally Posted by 360Rocket

not with aluminum.

That's funny, I have head to only use distilled water in an aluminum system. Regular water contain too many minerals that will cause corrosion.

[360Rocket]

Originally Posted by Frank3

That's funny, I have head to only use distilled water in an aluminum system. Regular water contain too many minerals that will cause corrosion.

disstilled is with iron.

[WhiskeyRunner]

Whipple recommends Red Line water wetter. They say add 1 bottle. My understanding is as said above, it helps with water tension and also reduces air bubbles caused by the water pump ( cavitations ).

Just using water does not sound like a good idea. Water does not transfer heat as well as Anti Freeze.

I used Red Line in my '67 GT350 while in Florida and it worked. It dropped my water temp. by 20 degrees.

[360Rocket]

[quote=WhiskeyRunner;550342]Just using water does not sound like a good idea. Water does not transfer heat as well as Anti Freeze.

QUOTE]

Read the bottle, it drops the temp lower without the coolant. actually, here is a video from Water Wetter explaining that straight water is far superior to water and coolant.

http://www.redlineoil.com/products_c...coolantFlash=1

water, WW, and coolant were at 220 degrees

watr alone wit WW was 202 degrees.

[Roushinator]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyRunner

Just using water does not sound like a good idea. Water does not transfer heat as well as Anti Freeze.

What is antifreeze for? Look at the name. Distilled water has better heat transfer than anti freeze.

[rheacerdave]

Yes, Water Wetter is a surfactant, and works kinda ok to lubricate. Again the soap thing.
Antifreeze is ethylene glycol. IT boils at a higher temperature than water and freezes at a lower temperature than water. Unfortunately, it doesn't transfer heat as well as water, and blocks some of the surfactant effect of WaterWetter, Purple Ice, etc.
Freezing Point
Ethylene Glycol Solution
(% by volume)..... 0 .10 20 30 40 50 60
Temperature (oF) 32 23 14 2 -13 -36 -70
Boiling Point
Ethylene Glycol Solution
(% by volume)....... 0 ..10. 20.. 30.. 40. 50.. 60
Temperature (oF) 212 214 216 220 220 225 232


Distilled water is water that is boiled, the steam captured, cooled, and collected to give nothing but H2O, all the minerals are left in the boiling pot.
No electrolytes to combine with copper or aluminum.
I use Water Wetter (1 or 2 bottles), water and a quart or so of antifreeze to help with the rust in the A/Sedan car. Dispite what WW says, used as directed, it will not prevent rust! Still hits 220-230 degrees, but better than 240-260 without WW. Plus we aren't really supposed to use antifreeze on the track. Slippery as goose poop! I know.
Not the best thing to do with a street car, because of winter.
You do have to remember to flush the system and fill up with regular 50-50 antifreeze before the 1st frost. (Had a buddy destroy a BRAND new race engine in North Carolina, forgot to swap out and cracked new block).
All that said, for daily driving, extra $10 you don't need to spend. For those that track day, drag race, etc. couldn't hurt and will run 10-15 degrees cooler, even with 50-50 antifreeze. Would work with intercooler, as well.
SCCA club racer and pharmacist

[WhiskeyRunner]

360Rocket .. Thanks for the info .. I learned something new about water vs anti freeze.

[360Rocket]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyRunner

360Rocket .. Thanks for the info .. I learned something new about water vs anti freeze.

cool man.....I like helpin' out.

I gotta go do my homework on the distilled water thing as I know thats is for older engines but I understood it to be just the opposite for the newer aluminum engines. Maybe I got it flip flopped.

[Roushinator]

Originally Posted by 360Rocket

cool man.....I like helpin' out.

I gotta go do my homework on the distilled water thing as I know thats is for older engines but I understood it to be just the opposite for the newer aluminum engines. Maybe I got it flip flopped.

Yeah you're a flop.

[360Rocket]

Originally Posted by Roushinator

Yeah you're a flop.

your mamma.............

[Frank3]

From Wikipedia...

"Distilled or deionized water is preferable to tap water for use in automotive cooling systems. The minerals and ions typically found in tap water can be corrosive to internal engine components, and can cause a more rapid depletion of the anti-corrosion additives found in most antifreeze formulations. Distilled or deionized water is especially important in automotive hybrid system component cooling systems, mixed with hybrid system coolant, to prevent corrosion and/or electrolysis of hybrid components."

From my ROUSH Owners Guide Supplement, Cooling Systems section...

"Your ROUSH Stage 3 Mustang has two separate cooling systems - one for the engine and one for the intercooler. Both use a 50/50 mix of G05 spec automotive anti-freeze and distilled water...."

I am fairly sure that Ford requires distilled water in the cooling system too.