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Old 07-18-2008, 02:56 PM
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How to Spot an "Authentic" ROUSH Vehicle

This was just posted over on the Roush website. NICE.....

http://www.roushperformance.com/news..._story&sid=227

LIVONIA, Mich. - With the ever-increasing popularity of the ROUSH® brand we are seeing more and more enthusiast-modified vehicles showing up at car shows and used car lots. Unfortunately, due to ignorance or (dare we say it?) deception on the part of an unscrupulous seller, often these parts-only cars and trucks are mistakenly represented as authentic ROUSH® models.

Make no mistake – we like seeing what people do to personalize their cars. We're car buffs and love the creativity and individual expression that goes into a personally-built car. But sometimes these vehicles can end up looking so close to a ROUSH® model we simply want people to be informed and able to spot one from another.

So what is a buyer to do? Educate yourself about what makes an authentic ROUSH®vehicle, and follow these simple tips to help you tell the difference.

• Check for the production serial number. Each ROUSH® vehicle that is manufactured in the Livonia, Mich., facility will have a production serial number sticker affixed. This is a white decal which is normally found on the passenger door jamb.

The number will have two digits at the start (for example "08") followed by a dash, and then several numbers. This means that a number such as "08-1234" indicates that it is a 2008 Model Year vehicle and was the 1,234th ROUSH® vehicle manufactured in that model year. Cars and trucks are numbered sequentially when they are built, regardless of what ROUSH® model they may be. Note: 2004 and earlier vehicles do not have the two digit model year preceding the serial number.

• Check for the badge that states "Modified by ROUSH." This is typically affixed to the driver side door jamb.

• Look under the hood. There you will find a second serial number which is on a dedicated plaque specific to that ROUSH® Model. The number on this badge is sequential to the number of cars in that specific model only. It will be different than the production serial number. This badge can normally be found on the right front corner of the vehicle off to the side of the radiator. Note: SportTM, Stage 1TM and Stage 2TM models do not have this additional plaque.

• Vehicles with a ROUSHcharger will have an additional Stage 3TM or P-51TM Powertrain Badge. This too can be found under the hood and is only available on cars that are built at the ROUSH® facility. As an interesting side note, this badge is also personally signed by the ROUSH® technician that built the car. This badge is normally located on the passenger side strut tower (Mustang) or the airbox (F-150).

• Do a VIN search on ROUSHperformance.com. Jot down the last six digits of the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) which is found on a metal plate, usually seen through the windshield. When you get home, log onto www.ROUSHperformance.com and look for the “VIN Search” link in the “Help” section of the home page.

When the page loads, type in those six digits and if the car is an authentic ROUSH®-built vehicle it should pull right up with information about when the car was assembled, the dealer it was sold to and other details. Note: This database is incomplete for 2000 or earlier cars, but is frequently updated.

• If listed by a private seller, ask to see the original paperwork. Most people who purchase ROUSH® vehicles keep the original paperwork such as window stickers and owner's manuals. If you are purchasing a car from a private seller, ask to see this paperwork if it is not shown to you.

• Ask questions – lots of them. If you still seem unsure if this is an authentic ROUSH®, then ask lots of questions and listen closely. Ask about what dealer the car was purchased from, for how much and when. If the car has a ROUSHcharger®, ask about who installed it. Listen for clues that might indicate that the car is a parts project vehicle.

• Do your homework. Visit the www.ROUSHperformance.com and look over the car models and the items that come standard with the package. Talk to other ROUSH® owners if possible and learn about the cars and the things to look for. As with any expensive purchase, the more knowledge you are armed with the better buyer you can become.
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Old 07-18-2008, 03:31 PM
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wow... good article.
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One thing wrong with that article...........


NO MENTION OF US HERE AT FNSWEET......
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Old 07-18-2008, 05:03 PM
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Haha, you read my mind Ryan! I was SOOOO waiting for the "...visit FnSweet.com and consult with fellow Roush enthusiasts before purchasing..."
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Old 07-18-2008, 05:53 PM
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One thing wrong with that article...........


NO MENTION OF US HERE AT FNSWEET......
Well are you really surprised?
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:48 PM
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My 04 has the stage 3 badge under the hood, but it doesn't have that signature badge it talked about.
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My 04 has the stage 3 badge under the hood, but it doesn't have that signature badge it talked about.
Check on your FEAD.



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Old 07-20-2008, 05:26 PM
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One thing wrong with that article...........


NO MENTION OF US HERE AT FNSWEET......
Yeah, nothing, not even ROEA.

Strange, enthusiast are usually the best sales people a company can have.
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Old 07-20-2008, 05:40 PM
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Yeah, nothing, not even ROEA.

Strange, enthusiast are usually the best sales people a company can have.
What is an ROEA?
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:39 PM
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How about a 2005 Stage 2 that is listed on Roush's vin check as a Sport but is Papered as a Stage 2 if you call Roush and they even say it was used by Driver Erik Darnell in there Gong Show in 2005. How do I get it fixed on Roush's Vin check even if I ask Jack Roush himself and he says talk to Tony Marzalex(at Roush). I did, and still not fixed the vin check?

Well I guess I got to just keep my papers in a Safety Deposit Box and if I ever sell.
Give them to the next buyer.
Oh and ask Erik Darnell if it's okay to give out his e-mail with it in case the new owner wants to ask any questions to Erik.

But all in all, I'll never sell this Roush....

Ps. Even if you offered me a Million Dollars. Just wont let it go when my heart is into it.
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:32 AM
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Roundtable of Expensive Accoutrements

How's that? Best I can do on short notice.
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:47 AM
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Thanks for the post and get info like this out to all ROUSH enthusiast/owners. Wish friend Tony had it before he purchased his 2007 white roadster created by FL dealer.
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Nope not there, but I never realized how many things under the hood have Roush stamped into it! One other thing carefull that S/C is hot!
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Nope not there, but I never realized how many things under the hood have Roush stamped into it! One other thing carefull that S/C is hot!
Sorry to hijack...........but Justin built my JRC engine too, never seen his name on another one before, sorry just too cool to me!
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Sorry to hijack...........but Justin built my JRC engine too, never seen his name on another one before, sorry just too cool to me!
Those are pictures from 2 separate cars. So now you know of 3.
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I believe the Sports through 2's were meant to be modified. It's like Jack said, "Here's a start, now finish it." But it does irk me a little when I see a GT with Roush graphics and possibly a few pieces from the body kit. I just hope those people weren't told by the seller that the car is a Roush. I'm glad you guys recognize that happens all too often.
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The site stated mine was sold to dealer "RPP Demo." Anyone know what RPP Demo is?
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The site stated mine was sold to dealer "RPP Demo." Anyone know what RPP Demo is?
was driven by a sales rep or other employee before getting put on a dealers lot.
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The site stated mine was sold to dealer "RPP Demo." Anyone know what RPP Demo is?
Yep, it's a dealers car from Roush to show what Roush has made for the dealers to sell.

There are a few of these cars that had added stages to them.
Requested by dealers to be redone before getting them to the dealers.
So you may see it list on Roush vin search as a Sport or RPP Demo.
But all of thes cars have corrected Stage window stickers, and a Roush letter of the added order of the build.
Some of these special cars were used in different events that Roush held as well.
Such as:
Race Around the World Event, BF-Goodrich tire rep, Cooper tires event, and the Roush Gong Show/Discovery Channels Driver X Program.
So Rpp Demos/Event cars are a little bit Unique to have.
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How about a 2005 Stage 2 that is listed on Roush's vin check as a Sport but is Papered as a Stage 2 if you call Roush and they even say it was used by Driver Erik Darnell in there Gong Show in 2005. How do I get it fixed on Roush's Vin check even if I ask Jack Roush himself and he says talk to Tony Marzalex(at Roush). I did, and still not fixed the vin check?

Well I guess I got to just keep my papers in a Safety Deposit Box and if I ever sell.
Give them to the next buyer.
Oh and ask Erik Darnell if it's okay to give out his e-mail with it in case the new owner wants to ask any questions to Erik.

But all in all, I'll never sell this Roush....

Ps. Even if you offered me a Million Dollars. Just wont let it go when my heart is into it.
Almost had to eat my words here. But it came down to family or the car.
In the end got to keep the car, and keep the family safe and happy.
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