Canada Meet Nascar Officiating

[Daves_Stage2]

What a flipping joke. Nascar in its inaugural visit to Canada manages to show what a world class organization they're not. Robby Gordon got absolutely screwed. How the heck Nascar came up with moving him from 1st or 2nd to 13th in a late caution defies imagination.

[Perferd]

Apparently my real estate agent races in the NASCAR candian curcuit thats about all I know lol...

[mkeane]

have to agree, Robby Gordon got screwed by Nascar

[C_TAYLOR]

I couldnt disagree more... Robby Gordon deserves to be suspended for the rest of the season in both series for what he did.

[Mrs. Supersnake]

Originally Posted by C_TAYLOR

I couldnt disagree more... Robby Gordon deserves to be suspended for the rest of the season in both series for what he did.

+1...he may feel like he was screwed but he should have abided by the rules...everyone knew what he was going to do. You follow the rules and then go through the channels to protest. This will not help his cause.

[Daves_Stage2]

Originally Posted by C_TAYLOR

I couldnt disagree more...

Just curious why you think Nascar's decision to move Gordon back 12 positions in the field was the correct one? Maybe I am missing something.

[07PONY]

No doubt he got screwed in being told to drop back to 12th or 13th, but like Rusty said this morning if you piss off NASCAR you are going to lose.

I agree he didn't handle it the best way but if he went back in the field he was not going to win but he would be racing today.

[go-pony]

I was watching the race. As far as I can tell Gordon was in second place behind Ambrose when the caution flag went up. Gordon proceeded to pass Ambrose and soon after got spun out by Ambrose which dropped Gordon back several places. I haven't read anything that says either Ambrose or Gordon knew the caution flag was up when they were mixing it up; so they might have thought the race was still on. I can see moving Gordon back to second where he was when the caution went up. I am not familar enough with the Nascar rules to know if Gordon should have been penalized for passing while under caution. If there is a penalty for passing during a caution moving Gordon back to 13th appears a bit arbitrary. I don't believe that Gordon ended up in 13th after being spun out by Ambrose, but maybe he was.

When Gordon refused to abide by the official's ruling to go back to 13th place they should have called the race over right then because everybody could tell that he was going to take Ambrose out when the green flag went up. The final results are a joke because Ambrose was robbed of a well deserved first place finish (or at least a chance to legitimately battle for a first place finish) by Gordon's selfish and immature behavior. Gordon should be fired, or at least suspended for a few races and have points taken away for what he did.

See:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...uto&id=2961661

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/s...d=2&id=2962002

[D ROUSH]

Robby Gordon is an ass hat. About the only good thing I can say about him is that he was a good sport and signed a peice of roll bar padding after he cheated last year. Unfortunately a transformer detonated in my neighboor hood yesterday and I missed the end of the race. Granted he is a great driver but he has to be the most spoiled cry baby of all the drivers ~ must be why you like him huh Dave?

[TPSMak]

Robby Gordon is the BIGGEST cry baby in auto sports. I remembered when he complained about Danica Patrick having a "UNFAIR WEIGHT ADVANTAGE" on him during the Indy 500. For what he did they should park his dumb ass for the rest of the season to send a message to the rest of the field. What a MORON... I used to be a fan of his until he mad that lame ass statement.
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/s...=wc&id=2070899


Another thing I don't really understand is WHY THE HELL are all the NASCAR regulars running in BUSCH? Wasn't the BUSCH series suppose to be a developmental series for NASCAR?

It does seem like NASCAR screwed up in sending him to the pack though

[blue01gtconv]

another reason i am losing all interest in the sport

i hate robbie but he got fuct ide have done the same thing

[02Roush2]

Oh I totally disagee guys...hands down the biggest cry baby in NASCAR is Tont Stewart!! Followed closely by Denny Hamlin...

I actually like Robby Gordon. I think what he did (when he did not respond to the black flag) was completely wrong but I still like him. He is kind of like the Lone Ranger out there these days but he never quits and will certainly let you know what he thinks about ya. I love paybacks! Ambrose spun him out when the caution flag was clearly waving and Robby spun him back....so what?? Could be that young Mr. Ambrose will think twice before spinning anybody out the next time.

[D ROUSH]

Ok.... I watched some of the vids of the deal. It does appear that he got a lame call. But a black flag is a black flag so he is going to just need to take his lumps. He is still a pretty boy ass hat though Then again...sigh... he is indeed one of a kind.. owner/driver that is entertaining. So, I suppose my flame is flickering in ways

[bigtone408]

Originally Posted by Apexmotorsports

Robby Gordon is the BIGGEST cry baby in auto sports.

Bigger than Danica Patrick?!?!

Cleary the wrong move by NASCAR. The problem w/ NASCAR is they aren't a "road racing" series. so when things like this happen they aren't experienced in handling them. A local yellow would easily solve this problem as would on board electronics. But if Robby Gordon did see the black flag and the team manager told him to come in and he didn't then he deserves whatever he gets.

[Daves_Stage2]

Yeah it is really unfortunate that Nascar officials had a direct impact on the outcome of the race. We'll never really know who the real winner would have been.

I personally found it highly entertaining that he ignored Nascar officials and kept his original reported position of second on the restart. I think he hung NASCAR's cheese out in the wind and they deserved it. Sometimes you just have to have the cajones to stand up for what you think is right. I'm cool with it as long as it doesn't happen to often.

[02Roush2]

Originally Posted by Daves_Stage2

Yeah it is really unfortunate that Nascar officials had a direct impact on the outcome of the race. We'll never really know who the real winner would have been.

I personally found it highly entertaining that he ignored Nascar officials and kept his original reported position of second on the restart. I think he hung NASCAR's cheese out in the wind and they deserved it. Sometimes you just have to have the cajones to stand up for what you think is right. I'm cool with it as long as it doesn't happen to often.

That pretty much sums up my feelings on the incident!

[TPSMak]

Robby Gordon definitely got screwed... he should have been re-started either 1 or 2 after the yellow.. BUT he messed up by spinning Ambrose and doing a burnout next to Harvick

[C_TAYLOR]

Originally Posted by Daves_Stage2

Just curious why you think Nascar's decision to move Gordon back 12 positions in the field was the correct one? Maybe I am missing something.

Do you have access to the same scoring loops as NASCAR officials?

[Daves_Stage2]

Originally Posted by C_TAYLOR

Do you have access to the same scoring loops as NASCAR officials?

I am guessing that you probably didn't watch the race or saw the highlights. Cool, no worries.

Nascar didn't base their decision on where to place RG purely on the scoring loops or else he would have been in 1st or 2nd. Nascar is claiming he failed to maintain a safe speed after the caution and did not fall back into line until after he was spun out by Ambrose. Anyone who watched those series events knows that NASCAR for some reason only saw about half of what was really occurring on the track. IE Ambrose was still racing too and spun Gordon out under caution.

[07PONY]

Bad thing about all of this for Robby whether you like him or not, he was in a lose - lose situation and NASCAR is never going to admit they screwed up.

Have to agree with Robby it's hard to maintain your speed under caution when somebody jacks your ass end off the ground.

Is there anybody that honestly thought Robby wasn't going to dish out a little payback?