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The 24 team will win by a land slide... thats my prediction! The chase system is terrible... and I feel bad saying that with out a sugguestion on making it better!
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How about how many time are Tony and Carl gonna crash again into eachother.Or should I say Tony crash into Carl again.I've counted at least 5 time Tony made contact with Carl in different races.
 
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screw hendrick and their amazing luck they seem to always carry with them.
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None of those three are good choices. I am sick of Hendricks... and that damn luck they have. It's boring, no wonder ratings are down. I just want to see others (That I like) having good days, and them have a bad day.
When Jimmie wrecked last week and jumped up and yelled (YESS!!). of course he still had a good finish, and of course Mr. Whinner had to win. I wish NASCAR would put stiffer limits on the size of teams, and actually make it easier for the smaller teams to compete. I don't mind the chase too much, it does add some extra fun. I would be fine with the old system though to.
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If it should be full season til the end...then why does the NFL and the NBA and the MLB all have pre-season and post-season playoffs? Kinda gives you incentive to bust your kahooneys through the first part of the season and then it wipes the slate clean and sets it up for the best of the best to have to continue to bust their kahooneys to get back whatever advantage they may have had. Personally I like the chase format and am glad to see they tweaked it a little this year to allow more guys in and to give more points for winning races because you should be rewarded for your efforts. .02 deposited
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I don't think you can compare pre-season or post-season NFL w/ motorsport because there are no win-loss records. But using the chase analogy; if a team is playing the Colts or Patriots then they should be spotted 14 points and the Colts and Patriots should have to get 25 yards for a 1st down because they are so much better than everyone else.
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I just wanted to agree with Deb... I like the idea of a chase... something needs to be done about it though... first I dont like the 10 bonus point entering the chase for a win... you could run second all year long.. and still be sixty behind the greatest driver of all time Jeff Gordon ( i m not a 24 fan but he is damn good ) Something else needs to be done with the top thirty five in owers points... I have tried and tried to figure out the qualifying and I still cant... Watching Inside Nextel Cup with the panel of drivers... Waltrip makes me more confused than ever... and I think he does it on purpose to make a point as to how confusing it is... I also think that the 25 points taken from the 99's driver is bs... mainly cuase 25 points in the chase is worth sooo much more than earlier in the year...
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Get rid of it all together!!!! If you cant run fast enough to make it into the field...then you need to sit on the sidelines and watch the other guys and figure out where you went wrong. How would it look if some of the top names guys started missing races because they werent fast enough in qualifying?
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There are a lot of things that SHOULD happen, but never will, because of the money involved.....like the top 35 qualifying lock in. Like others, I think everyone should have to qualify each race to get in. I think the past champions provisional is a joke....it's a nice tribute to a driver, but has little to do with how the car he is driving that week is performing.
Nascar has gotten itself into a vicious circle, where there is so much money at stake, that the racing suffers for the money factor....it's a shame for us fans, as well as some of the drivers who truly love to race. 
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Here is a little Q & A with Smoke... some very good points made about the chase and provisionals...
Q: Some teams are asking their drivers who aren't in the Chase to pull over and let a teammate who is in pass them for top-five finishes. Does that bother you? Stewart: Yeah, I don't really like that aspect of it. But there is nothing you can do about it. It kind of is what it is. It goes back to really the only thing that I've disagreed on with the Chase. You've got 31 other guys that can dictate who wins the championship and who doesn't, literally, by those 31 guys. We need to have our own point structure where it's first through 12th for us every week. We're not racing those other guys for points anyway, so why should they be dictating where we're at amongst each other? If you've got five guys in between two Chase guys, it shouldn't matter -- especially if three of them are teammates of one guy that's in the Chase and that guy lets three of them go to protect this guy's spot. That's the only thing I really don't like about our Chase rules. It's like the old points. If you only knock me out of the way in one race of 36, the effect it had was a lot less. In 10 weeks, and the points being so much tighter now, those five points here and there can be like 50 points in the old system. It's much more of an impact now, especially with the fields being as close and as tight as they are now. You want the guys to win the championship, you want them to earn it, not have a teammate give him those spots. Q: What about the qualifying rules to get rid of provisionals? Stewart: I think it's a tough situation. NASCAR is the only one that understands it fully. You've got to remember you're asking a driver, and luckily I own some race teams so I kind of understand what we're talking about and why. But when you've got multi-million dollar companies coming into the sport and expecting to see their teams run say, the Daytona 500, if you've got a team that puts out three other cars just for that one event to make the show and make money off the event, if one of those major sponsors misses it because of something like that, it's hard for some of these smaller teams. Or if you have a mistake, if you blow an engine and miss the show because of that, I don't know that it's fair to that driver and team that support every race and try to make every show. It's a tough balance. It's kind of like the point structure in the Chase. I'm not sure there is an easy solution to that because you look at it from the owner's standpoint and the sponsor's standpoint you understand why they do it, but you also understand it from somebody like Boris Said's standpoint, who is trying to make it in and is on the provisional pole at Daytona earlier and gets rained out and has to go home. You see it from both sides. I'm not sure there is any good solution to it at this point, at least not from a driver's standpoint. You've got to ask somebody a lot smarter than me that question. *taken from Nascar.com.....
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