Vortech supercharger

[family man]

I got this email from Mustang Racing Technology (MRT), how does this price sound?

“Supercharger” Package
- Vortech satin supercharger system
- Installation by Ford and Vortech Certified Technicians
- FREE MRT installed windshield banner!
- FREE 20 point inspection by Mustang experts!
So you want to run with the big boys? This is most affordable way to gain BIG power without tearing your engine apart. Our experience with Vortech superchargers has made us an authority when it comes to knowing what works with your Mustang.
Installed package price: ’99-’04 GT was $4266.00 now $3767.25
’05-’07 V6 was $3786.50 now $3428.00
’05-’07 GT was $4533.50 now $4061.00
YES, That is the Installed price!!!!!!!!!!
Custom calibration available, H.O. kits and polished kits available.
Cobra, Bullitt, Mach1 packages are also available.
Please contact Dan for details.

I am going to call them tomorrow for more details, but I thought this sounded like a fair price, what do you guys/gals think?

Mike

[04roush2]

Sounds Damn Good

[sigbrown1297]

Originally Posted by family man

I got this email from Mustang Racing Technology (MRT), how does this price sound?

“Supercharger” Package
- Vortech satin supercharger system
- Installation by Ford and Vortech Certified Technicians
- FREE MRT installed windshield banner!
- FREE 20 point inspection by Mustang experts!
So you want to run with the big boys? This is most affordable way to gain BIG power without tearing your engine apart. Our experience with Vortech superchargers has made us an authority when it comes to knowing what works with your Mustang.
Installed package price: ’99-’04 GT was $4266.00 now $3767.25
’05-’07 V6 was $3786.50 now $3428.00
’05-’07 GT was $4533.50 now $4061.00
YES, That is the Installed price!!!!!!!!!!
Custom calibration available, H.O. kits and polished kits available.
Cobra, Bullitt, Mach1 packages are also available.
Please contact Dan for details.

I am going to call them tomorrow for more details, but I thought this sounded like a fair price, what do you guys/gals think?

Mike

Are those prices for intercooled systems?

[family man]

Originally Posted by sigbrown1297

Are those prices for intercooled systems?

It didn't say in the email, but I don't think it is. I found this website http://superchargers4less.com/vortec...ustang_gt.html Looks like the "H.O." setup has the cooler. This one is suppose to be good for 420 h.p. even without the cooler.

[Markass]

I would gater it is NOT cooled. I would certainly not do any power adder system that is not inter or after cooled.

[04roush2]

Same here

[family man]

Originally Posted by Markass

I would gater it is NOT cooled. I would certainly not do any power adder system that is not inter or after cooled.

I thought the same thing until I read this on the Vortech FAQ website:

26. Why don't Vortech superchargers need an Aftercooler or an intercooler?

Vortech Engineering, LLC has conducted extensive testing of most intercoolers/aftercoolers currently on the market. Test results indicate that for street driven purposes below 8-9 PSIG, installing an aftercooler has marginal effects when using a Vortech supercharger (due to the high efficiency of the supercharger). Nearly all of the intercoolers/aftercoolers available on the market have poor effectiveness and actually can cause parasitic losses equal to or greater than the power gained by installing a intercooler/aftercooler. Vortech has developed systems which are substantially more effective at lowering discharge temperatures without causing driveability problems and pressure drops thru the cooling core and ducting.

[Markass]

Interesting, but I still wouldn't ever do it on my car.
Vortech may say it's safe, but if you ever want to up the boost, it's BOOM time when you can't cool the hot ass air coming out of that hair dryer. Detonation isn't a good friend, and it's common in uncooled P/A engines.

In reality, with my Vortech w/ aftercooler, I make more than most people without an aftercooler because of the nice cold air that gets dumped into the intake. Sure, it robs some of the exiting air pressure from the blower but the resulting cooler air actually builds more power and ends up giving me right at 10PSI. This was when it was all stock.

It sounds like a great price installed, I just don't know if I would do it without an "insurance policy."

[family man]

Thanks for the input Markass, I appreciate it . I'm clueless about this subject, obviously.

I called MRT today and it is the NON intercooled unit. They supply the supercharger, fuel pump, injectors and tuner (SCT is their preference over Vortech using DiabloSport). I also called Vortech and asked them about not needing an intercooler. The tech said that with 8lbs boost and a conservative tune, there should never be a problem. Since I have a catted x-pipe and roush offroad axle back I will have to have a custom tune done. Vortech asked who I was going to have do the work, and when I said MRT, the guy said they are great and that Vortech has used some of MRT's fuel delivery parts for there test cars, and that they (MRT) definitely know what they are doing. Plus, if I ever decide to get really nuts and go for more boost, I can add the intercooler later they said.

So, if I go with a polished unit ($250), dyno tune ($300) and tax ($277) I should be out the door for $4888.

[sigbrown1297]

Originally Posted by family man

Thanks for the input Markass, I appreciate it . I'm clueless about this subject, obviously.

I called MRT today and it is the NON intercooled unit. They supply the supercharger, fuel pump, injectors and tuner (SCT is their preference over Vortech using DiabloSport). I also called Vortech and asked them about not needing an intercooler. The tech said that with 8lbs boost and a conservative tune, there should never be a problem. Since I have a catted x-pipe and roush offroad axle back I will have to have a custom tune done. Vortech asked who I was going to have do the work, and when I said MRT, the guy said they are great and that Vortech has used some of MRT's fuel delivery parts for there test cars, and that they (MRT) definitely know what they are doing. Plus, if I ever decide to get really nuts and go for more boost, I can add the intercooler later they said.

So, if I go with a polished unit ($250), dyno tune ($300) and tax ($277) I should be out the door for $4888.

Out the door for 4888? Might as well get the whipple blower and install it yourself.
FRP supercharger

[Markass]

Originally Posted by family man

tuner (SCT is their preference over Vortech using DiabloSport). Plus, if I ever decide to get really nuts and go for more boost, I can add the intercooler later they said.

Excellent choice, and true.
I can't recall anything negative ever being said about MRT.

[family man]

I swear I have coolest wife in the world! We were talking about the Vortech last night and she asked me, is that what you really want to do to the car? I said I would rather go with the Roushcharger or another roots type, like the Whipple. They may cost a little more but they are intercooled, and roots type s.c.'s rock. She told me to wait until spring and use my tax return and bonus to get the Roushcharger or Whipple then. To be continued.....

[Scarface]

Roushcharger or another roots type, like the Whipple

you can get the base Whipple(black) for $4600, good for 415RWHP (488HP) and do the installation yourself, you can add the intercooler later and bump up the boost for 475RHWP. Personally I think the Whipple supplied software is much safer and superior to Vortech/Procharger, software is so well engineered that it will be used on all 2008 GT500s. Keep us updated.

[Red Fever]

Sure but does she know how hard it is to wait that long. You'll be like Cartman waiting for his Nintendo WII (if you're a south park fan). Keep us posted.

[family man]

Originally Posted by Red Fever

Sure but does she know how hard it is to wait that long. You'll be like Cartman waiting for his Nintendo WII (if you're a south park fan). Keep us posted.

I will. The fact that the car is now in storage will make the waiting easier, I hope.